[Mitchy]

I never said faster, i said a turbo zr is no faster than todays breed of hot hatches!

I would say on a par with a CTR is a better comparison!

ZR160 takes 22.5 secs to go from 0-100
CTR takes 16.9 secs to go from 0-100

A ZR with 220-230bhp is around the same 16-17secs. Having proof of this actually at santapod and the turbo zr's that have ran down the strip and having seen plenty of CTR's also!

 

[mk1tony]

wow what turbo did he use?

not to sure, was only like 11 when he had it so all i knew is it made lots of noise and went bloody fast. i'll ask him when he gets home. was full wrc spec but with a more modified engine (was in cyprus aswell so probably not completely road legal in the uk)

 

[spanner385]

I recon it is all down to the quality of the partsyou get other than the engine and who does it. The age should not phase you if it has been rebuilt.

The original BMW M1 straight six motors were engines that had done 60k then stripped, left outside and then rebuilt with awsome results.

 

[Saz]

I never said faster, i said a turbo zr is no faster than todays breed of hot hatches!

I would say on a par with a CTR is a better comparison!

ZR160 takes 22.5 secs to go from 0-100
CTR takes 16.9 secs to go from 0-100

A ZR with 220-230bhp is around the same 16-17secs. Having proof of this actually at santapod and the turbo zr's that have ran down the strip and having seen plenty of CTR's also!

just coz youve seen zr turbos going down santa pod doesnt mean you no what they have done to the engine whether it be standard or tuned..... theres alot of very fast rovers out there just look at ten of the best

and has it not been proven with the golfs that the mk1 is actually faster than todays model... so dont be knocking older cars the classics are the best

mgzrowner: at the end of the day mate if you want nothing but bloody hassle and gossip that your car is constantly going wrong by people who have never met you go get the 2litre conversion but its your decision at the end of the day what car you get as your the one who has to drive it and maintain it
just think about it first

 

[Jib 21]

oh my god a 1.4 ZR might actually be quicker than a two ton german tank, quick, call the media, get a publicist, have a shave! :roll:

 

[Saz]

Fpmsl......

 

[Jib 21]

FYI people, IIRC there were about 3 different Golf GTis available at the time that brochure was published. Ranging from a NASP 2.0 to a 1.8 Turbo. I can almost garauntee that the ZR105 ISNT quikcer than the Turbo version
Oh and as for CTRs, totally unfair comparision as hello? Vtec? Have you ever tried keeping a Vtec in the powerband for max pull? Not bloody easy! Faaaaaar easier to keep the boost going in a turbo IMO.

 

[Chris25]

A turbo'd Zr is faster than a CTR and most of the new hot hatches, if done correctly. On mg rover Si had the t16 conversion on his purple 200, it now does 0-60 in about 5.5 seconds. I think one of the plus points of having the transplant is that it will supprise so many people! - Everyone knows how fast a CTR is, everyone knows how fast a astra VXR is, but you can have the last laugh as you haven't spend anyway near the amount they have on their cars, yours is more origional and supprising, and its a little faster too.

 

[ZR Saz's Biatch]

Well with the opinion people have of the Turbo conversion nobody might as well not bother with the conversion. We have done 2 now and Sarahs is forever getting slated even though they havent seen it, do you here about WJM123456's conversion ermmmmmmm nope. It has all been done by that prick *** (i dont care if I get a warmnng) *** *** ***. So I will have no more envolement with these "SHITE" conversions and good luck forever is going to do them.

 

[Andrea]

Dave ive had this convo with you and sarah before i know..

BUT..

people who haven't seen the cars that you have converted cannot comment, simple as!

I have seen sarahs and wullies and i know that both are running brilliantly and after being in sarahs countless times i know how quick they are aswell.

tbh i think sarah gets a lot of slating for the simple reason that shes a woman with a fast car and some blokes can't handle the thought of that

some people wouldn't have it done, some would its personal opinion on that one...

but tbh you have proved that it can be done successfully and if people don't believe that it's their problem not yours!

 

[ZR120]

People keep saying why put a 15yr old T series in there, but are we forgetting the K series has been around since 1989 (thats 17yrs old!!!)

so u cud be putting in a newer engine!!!! (well actually not as the 15yr old estimate for the T series is abit out)

fair enough our K's in the Zed havnt been running for 17yrs, but the technology is still that old

 

[Luke105+TURBO]

ive shared my views on this topic so many times before so not gona go into it,i had a RARE ZR turbo and it was good coz everyone was like is that a 2.0 turbo as they hear it dump,then open the the bay and see the lil 1.4 with boost pipes etc.I WANT MY CAR BACK!

 

[Jib 21]

People keep saying why put a 15yr old T series in there, but are we forgetting the K series has been around since 1989 (thats 17yrs old!!!)

so u cud be putting in a newer engine!!!! (well actually not as the 15yr old estimate for the T series is abit out)

fair enough our K's in the Zed havnt been running for 17yrs, but the technology is still that old

I think the emphasis is on the "used" definition of old as opposed to the technology it is based on. Pretty much as your last statement indicates.
It can be done well. Sarahs is a fine example of it. My Leon has an issue keeping up with it sometimes and that's running at 225ps

 

[Luke105+TURBO]

jib the 225 is standard bhp aint it.my mates had a revo remap and its running just under 260bhp and fuck me its quick,very nice cars!!

 

[Jib 21]

225ps, just a tab under 225bhp (bloody europeans)...mine will be mapped soon enough

 

[ZR120]

I think the emphasis is on the "used" definition of old as opposed to the technology it is based on. Pretty much as your last statement indicates.
It can be done well. Sarahs is a fine example of it. My Leon has an issue keeping up with it sometimes and that's running at 225ps

yeh totally understand. As both we mentioned, the 17yr old technology in our zeds, have only been runing for about 20,000 miles. Were as even a good T series will have covered 60/70k, and been stood for 15yrs.

Thats why its crucial for a decent one, then get it reconditioned, and a good tidy installation.

 

[Mr Vegas]

It wouldent bother me if the engine was 17 years old..........once its been rebuilt (by someone who knows what there doing)its gona be more reliable than a new one anyway.............

ive rebuild tons of a series and vauxhall engines and never had any probs with them...some are still going now....
also some older engines are better...if theve ran for 17 years ok the they will be ok for another 17 years......................we have a 1949 jag and the engine in that is tons better than the new rubish there fiting and 100% more reliable........................
after seeing the work dave has done on the zrs hes connverted hes done a first class job on them.....and if youve never seen one of his then dont give negative coments on the them..................

 

[sl114]

what is it ? is it brand new? does it work for the mk2? how much?

nice 1 people!

Edz.

with regards to your first post, as this is what the discussion is about

Its an engine with a turbo
its not brand new
it will work for the MK2
Price varies

Thankyou, come again

 

[miker]

with regards to your first post, as this is what the discussion is about

Its an engine with a turbo
its not brand new
it will work for the MK2
Price varies

Thankyou, come again

made me chuckle, nice one! The T-series conversion has been done with varying levels of success, some work fine, some don't. This is usually down to the fitter not re-building the engine, as it has been said these are used engines. As with any other used engine you dont know it's history, it may be in perfect working order, or more likely it needs a good service and rebuild with new parts just like any other engine would. The conversion itself is fairly straight forward, the two common sticking points are

1) Condition of the engine itself
2) Wiring it properly.

There is PLENTY of good information on this floating around on the internet, so if you are interested either spend some time researching it and reading through conversion diaries, or talk first hand to someone who has done it.

 

[sl114]

made me chuckle, nice one! The T-series conversion has been done with varying levels of success, some work fine, some don't. This is usually down to the fitter not re-building the engine, as it has been said these are used engines. As with any other used engine you dont know it's history, it may be in perfect working order, or more likely it needs a good service and rebuild with new parts just like any other engine would. The conversion itself is fairly straight forward, the two common sticking points are

1) Condition of the engine itself
2) Wiring it properly.

There is PLENTY of good information on this floating around on the internet, so if you are interested either spend some time researching it and reading through conversion diaries, or talk first hand to someone who has done it.

I aim to please!

But you are spot on, if its done right, you have nothing to worry about.