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Old 20-12-2008, 00:50   #11 (permalink)
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i too cant really feel a massive weight difference, but then i dont tend to throw the car into corners when its raining...

seriously though, come back to us with the fuel economy once the boost is up and you can really give it some. at the minute im getting 200 to a tank usually, but i do crappy 2 mile stop/starts to work. but even economically driving im still only looking at 230-250.

gota say i also havent had any idle jumping problems, and how come its taking so long to crank over in a morning, is this a characteristic of freshly built engines, as mine cracks up within a second or so usually? what size battery you running it on?
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Old 20-12-2008, 00:53   #12 (permalink)
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with it being a new engine the rings won't be fully bedded in so will have to build up compression, will get faster once the engine is run in more
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fair enough, good to know
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Old 20-12-2008, 07:00   #14 (permalink)
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Thats a good review Matt.
I agree with everything except for the weight thing. I think the T-series kinda wrecks the handling a bit. Its a very heavy engine due to the cast iron block and i find it tends to send the car sliding straight on when cornering in the wet. Can be scary!
I agree with the fuel as well, i can get 350+ miles if i watch my right foot. It can be pretty economical if driven sensibly.

Glad your enjoying it and it WILL give you years of reliable fun



You can use the 620ti alloy sump on the other engines
My 820 Vitesse engine has a 620ti sump on as the 820 sump was too low. It also meant i could run it without an oil cooler
Weight isn't an issue in the maestro as they use virtually the same block but only with 8v.

Maybe one has to modify the 620ti sump or one can't fit the steel sump on the 620ti block, I can't remember exactly but there are differences.

The 820 doesn't run an oil cooler, it is only the 220 and 420 that do IIRC.
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with it being a new engine the rings won't be fully bedded in so will have to build up compression, will get faster once the engine is run in more
If it is running DTA which I suspect it is then then it takes a few engine turns before ECU synchronises with the flywheel. It just takes longer without mems for some reason, regardless of what ECU is used.
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Weight isn't an issue in the maestro as they use virtually the same block but only with 8v.

Maybe one has to modify the 620ti sump or one can't fit the steel sump on the 620ti block, I can't remember exactly but there are differences.

The 820 doesn't run an oil cooler, it is only the 220 and 420 that do IIRC.
The Ti bottom end with the alloy sump uses M8 boltswhich are quite long and the 220/420 bottom end uses a tin sump and shorter M6 bolts. To use the alloy sump on the 220/420 you either need to drill and tap the bottom end to use M8 bolts, or use longer M6 bolts.

Also need to use the 220/420 cam side engine mount and PAS pump in place of the Ti one (at least in an R8 conversion).
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the ally sump does need longer bolts as i have one on my 220 tubby block with the oil cooler.. no modding is required to fit them.
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Maybe one has to modify the 620ti sump or one can't fit the steel sump on the 620ti block, I can't remember exactly but there are differences.
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The Ti bottom end with the alloy sump uses M8 boltswhich are quite long and the 220/420 bottom end uses a tin sump and shorter M6 bolts. To use the alloy sump on the 220/420 you either need to drill and tap the bottom end to use M8 bolts, or use longer M6 bolts
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the ally sump does need longer bolts as i have one on my 220 tubby block with the oil cooler.. no modding is required to fit them.
Yeah, you need to bugger about with the bolt holes to fit a 620ti alloy sump to a 220 or 420 block, but the 820 engine uses the same M8 bolts as the Ti. Mine is a vitesse engine so i was able to fit the alloy sump without any work needing done

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The 820 doesn't run an oil cooler, it is only the 220 and 420 that do IIRC.
No, your perfectly correct, i was just meaning that due to the standard 820 sump on my engine being too low, i was able to just swap to a Ti alloy one instead of hunting around to get a 220 sump and plumb in an oil cooler
Im just lazy and take the easy way out
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Rather than all of that I just fitted a 220 sump on my 820 lump (with a montego pick up) and then run a rather oversized coolant rad which keeps the general engine temp down.

I am fitting an oil temp gauge at some point so I'll see what temp the oil runs at.
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got to agree with youngy on the weight thing, i only had avo springs and i was constantly reminded of the extra weight up front.

Its an amazing feeling when it really goes though, Glad you finally got it done mate
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