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Right chaps,

Need some quick answers here..

How straight forward is it to change the front brakes on my 105 to the ones from the 160. I have all the parts if you like (calipers,discs,mintex pads) but how straight forward is the conversion...?

Does the brake bias get affected and run the risk of the front wheel locking up.?

Are they any other things that need done to the car other than just cahnging the parts over..?

Ansers much appreciated.

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Some peeps had it done... however i asked a MG (not dealership) specialist if it could be done and they said it couldnt due to neading a diff brake master cylyner etc etc...
 

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Straight forward Liam.

It is a straight swap and as long as you are not touching the rears, you don't need to worry about the master cylinder or the brake bias valve.

Been done a lot of times to many a 214/25/ZR.
 

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Straight forward Liam.

It is a straight swap and as long as you are not touching the rears, you don't need to worry about the master cylinder or the brake bias valve.

Been done a lot of times to many a 214/25/ZR.
oops i meant the rears :eek:oops:
 

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Excellent..

Cheers Stu....Always there as usual with the answers mate.. :grin:

Cheers hob.

Just that the MG garage im taking it to tomorrow hadnt done this to a 105 before and then someone had mentioned the bias valve to him and he started going on about finding out for sure before he started touching the car. (fair play i guess, especially as it with braking system).

I had said it should be a straight forward conversion, but just wanted backup to set him at ease as well.
 

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I got the front and rears done on my car in about 2hours with no probs at all.
Did you go from drums to disks at the rear? If so, did you change the brake bias valve over as they are balanced differently.
 

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my sisters boyfriend did it and all we did with the rear (drum to disk) was change the whole rear subframe with the legs and brakes on. Everything fitted perfectly i suppose it may be different if you are just changing the brakes as i changed the suspension, brakes, rear subframe, etc.
Its better if you find a 160 thats breaking then you can take the complete rear axle from it, which is exactly what i did. I also did the same with the fronts, instead of just changing the brakes i changed the complete leg inc suspension.
 

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Have you had the brake distribution checked thou? the garage said it could be done, but that the backs may brake more than the ratio they are supposed to its like 20:80 between front or rears or summin.
 

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The bias is very different between the drums and disks on the rear. Without changing the bias valve which alters this, you run the risk of swapping ends very easily in tricky conditions under hard braking.

Let alone the fact the insurance company would invalidate your insurance if they were to find out.

Will be interesting at MOT time to see whether they can fail it on this. They can with the incorrect balance left to right, but not sure about back to front.
 

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Only time will tell but braking seems to be a hell of alot better. Mine is actually a rover 214 would this still be the same case?
 

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Only time will tell but braking seems to be a hell of alot better. Mine is actually a rover 214 would this still be the same case?
 
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I have 160 disks and calipers on the back of my 105, cost me £100 for all bits and i fitted myself.

The pedal is not as hard seems to bite slightly further down (as my lass has a zed and i of course drive both) !! But the brakes are better, it evens it out better, a lot less dip at the front! ;-)
 

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Steve - got for the vented set up on yours with some braided hoses. Like i've tried to explain a million times to people with 1.4 engines, 160 brakes (unless going for serious power) are overkill. I drove a 214 with 160 brakes on and i nearly shot myself through the windscreen, it was uncontrolable.
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If you really must fit 160 brakes to a 105 then fit the whole system, front and rear, the master cylinder, the servo and any proportioning valves too. Otherwise it just wont be right and your insurance company would run a mile in the event of a claim if it wasnt done right. Tell your insurance company before you start any work too, and dont expect your insurance to get cheaper...
 

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Steve220 said:
Steve - got for the vented set up on yours with some braided hoses. Like i've tried to explain a million times to people with 1.4 engines, 160 brakes (unless going for serious power) are overkill. I drove a 214 with 160 brakes on and i nearly shot myself through the windscreen, it was uncontrolable.
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Wise words =D> =D>
 
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