[paul160]

im going for a 1600 upgrade not much more bhp but will be better on torque should notice he difference on acceleration speed works out a cheaper change compared to t16 :happy2:

 

[paul160]

would i feel any differences compard to my 1400?

 

[ThumpJunkie]

would i feel any differences compard to my 1400?

Not much, if you're going to do anything then I'd thoroughly recommend upgrading to the 1.8, difference in torque is immense.

 

[paul160]

how much could i be looking at for a 1800 vvc or non vvc engine or donor car?
i can get a r216si for 300 so depending on how much 1.8 will set me back i may go 1 better that 1.6 .....keeping in mind tho im thnking 1600 down to cheapness of the job :-D

 

[lxFearxl]

My 1.4 Wasnt far behind my mates 1.6 (off road) Although.. obviously the 1.6 was in front.. but not by any great amount.

 

[paul160]

was it a 1.6 rover/mg or different car? my 1.4 stays close to my mates 1.6 focus to a limit. 1.6 would be a slight change from my 1.4 and wouldnt cot me too much to do eitheras i could use my existing gearbox shortshift, driveshafts etc

 

[paul160]

ok my payday tomorrow so im on fleabay looking for 1800 engine now vvc or non-vvc

 

[paul160]

just found this, is it anybody on here selling it? lol

 

[paul160]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-ZR-1-8-VVC...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

for got the link here it is

 

[paul160]

yer the main reason i was gonna upgrade to 1600 is that i'd not have to worry about converting rear drums to disc lol and front brakes

 

[Jon_A]

Well you may as well just buy a complete car with the engine you want. If you do an engine swap say from a 1.4 to a 1.8 or even the 1.6 you will probably pay more insurance than if you just bought the factory built larger engine car. When insuring you have to declare that you have changed the engine and this will increase the premium a lot.

Only time this is worth while is if you change from a K series to the t16 turbo.

 

[ThumpJunkie]

Well you may as well just buy a complete car with the engine you want. If you do an engine swap say from a 1.4 to a 1.8 or even the 1.6 you will probably pay more insurance than if you just bought the factory built larger engine car. When insuring you have to declare that you have changed the engine and this will increase the premium a lot.

Only time this is worth while is if you change from a K series to the t16 turbo.

I have to agree TBH.

 

[Jon_A]

Well if you want a 1.8, really there is two options if you want to save money. Either a 200 vi or a Rover 25 GTI.

Avoid a BRM or ZR 160 as insurance is high for what are essentially all very similar cars.

 

[lewis105]

I love this thread ( Its decided now) but he is like im not sure maybe this maybe that lol

 

[paul160]

i was decided but now again .... in many minds on what to do:wacko:

 

[bluntyn40]

go for a 1.8 non vvc then get a vvc head get it ported and convert it to run solid cams etc

 

[ZRBlue]

was it a 1.6 rover/mg or different car? my 1.4 stays close to my mates 1.6 focus to a limit. 1.6 would be a slight change from my 1.4 and wouldnt cot me too much to do eitheras i could use my existing gearbox shortshift, driveshafts etc

Your 1.4 k-series should really have been INFRONT of a 1.6 focus upto a point. Even the 1.8 you should be neck and neck with upto about 60. Providing your gear changes etc are all spot on, so your getting the full power as much time as possible.

 

[paul160]

Your 1.4 k-series should really have been INFRONT of a 1.6 focus upto a point. Even the 1.8 you should be neck and neck with upto about 60. Providing your gear changes etc are all spot on, so your getting the full power as much time as possible.

yea i can keep wtht he focus nicely till top end

 

[ktm525racing]

if you end up wanting to do the 1.6 conversion i have everything to do it you can have the lot for 200 quid give me a shout if intrested???

 

[dannyb]

buy a cheap coupe vvc and take the engine from that